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PORTEUS - The World's Most Elegant Linux OS
Posted: 23 Jan 2025, 18:47
by IgorLebedev
I wanted to emphasize the word "automatically": if I completely move the porteus directory to the second Unix partition, which the system will detect as /mnt/sda2/ , while only /boot (and, possibly, EFI) remains on /mnt/sda1/ - do I need to make any changes to the configs, or will the system itself guess to look for the porteus directory on /mnt/sda2 and work from it?
Because this option for flash drives from two partitions mnt/sda1/ (fat32) and mnt/sda2/ (Unix-formatted) is the most convenient and universal, allows you to use UEFI BIOS and simultaneously save the system without additional config settings. Provided that the system, not finding the porteus directory on /mnt/sda1/ automatically searches for it on /mnt/sda2/ without unnecessary questions and actions from the user.
PORTEUS - The World's Most Elegant Linux OS
Posted: 23 Jan 2025, 18:47
by IgorLebedev
Ed_P wrote: ↑23 Jan 2025, 17:38
Porteus can read and write directly to linux format drives just like other linux systems. It's how linux works. IF one chooses to write to a non-linux format drive; FAT, exFAT or NTFS, Porteus will support that with some extra steps done by the user.
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I wanted to emphasize the word "automatically": if I completely move the porteus directory to the second Unix partition, which the system will detect as /mnt/sda2/ , while only /boot (and, possibly, EFI) remains on /mnt/sda1/ - do I need to make any changes to the configs, or will the system itself guess to look for the porteus directory on /mnt/sda2 and work from it?
Because this option for flash drives from two partitions mnt/sda1/ (fat32) and mnt/sda2/ (Unix-formatted) is the most convenient and universal, allows you to use UEFI BIOS and simultaneously save the system without additional config settings. Provided that the system, not finding the porteus directory on /mnt/sda1/ automatically searches for it on /mnt/sda2/ without unnecessary questions and actions from the user.
PORTEUS - The World's Most Elegant Linux OS
Posted: 24 Jan 2025, 11:45
by rych
IgorLebedev wrote: ↑23 Jan 2025, 15:44
will automatically detect this and automatically start working from it and saving without any additional saving settings and from=/mnt/sda2/porteus?
Yes. The /porteus folder will be automagically found on one of your partitions. See for example this discussion on the
search order for the /porteus folder :
rych wrote: ↑25 May 2024, 13:05
it is the linuxrc that finds the /porteus folder (aka the location of the porteus-...cfg file and the location of the /porteus/changes) even without any "from" cheatcode.
(Добро пожаловать Игорь, Спасибо что присоединился к форуму)
PORTEUS - The World's Most Elegant Linux OS
Posted: 25 Jan 2025, 19:29
by IgorLebedev
rych wrote: ↑24 Jan 2025, 11:45
(Добро пожаловать Игорь, Спасибо что присоединился к форуму)
Greetings and thanks for the excellent build, which compares favorably with Slax, MX Linux live, and especially Puppy. I would like to bring it closer in simplicity and automation to Slax. I’m probably already going beyond the scope of this forum thread: I propose to focus only on USB flash drives since CDs are no longer relevant for most noobs)) And the pros already know how to take *.ISO.
Therefore, I suggest that for noobs (and this is potentially the vast majority of users, especially among Slax users, it seems too simplified and non-standard) to simplify it, download not *.ISO, but *.zip. The instructions should also be written for noobs first and immediately describe two options for them: preparation for Windows and Linux. For Linux, as I wrote earlier, it is recommended to make 2 partitions (bootable Fat32 to support UEFI) and a working EXT4. If the flash drive is completely made for Windows and formatted Fat32 - automatically create *.dat without any questions. Or just ask about the size. Or, if possible, automatically resizing this file as needed - that would be great. So that the noob doesn’t think about any configs at all.
PORTEUS - The World's Most Elegant Linux OS
Posted: 25 Jan 2025, 23:39
by Ed_P
noobs, of which I was one when I started here, know nothing about EXT4b, or other Linux formats, but do know that Windows only sees 1 partition on a USB drive so creating a 2nd partition is a show stopper for many. Me included. Linux users who look to try Porteus know about Linux formats and don't worry about 2nd partitions because Linux handles them. Some noobs are looking for something they can learn from, some just want a system that loads and supports their access to the web easier.
Maybe two different instruction guides are needed.
PORTEUS - The World's Most Elegant Linux OS
Posted: 11 Mar 2025, 01:24
by nanZor
It's a cultural thing from way back about iso's where we were all taught not to simply copy the iso over to a target disk and expect it to work. So we finagle with the iso directly, not realizing that in Porteus' case (and some others), there is no need to burn or dd, just simply mount the iso and copy files from within to target drive. Follow additional instructions. Say whaaat? Yes. Blows your mind first time out. Something that simple can't work - but it does.
I do like how Gparted-Live and some others do it the Porteus way too with both .zip files in addition to .iso files. Kinda' forces one to unarchive that zip, and realize that simply copying files (and following any other README instructions) actually works. No burners or dd needed!
I'm kinda with Igor on this - but an additional .zip format (to force a simple unarchive) would probably double the workload / space unnecessarily.
PORTEUS - The World's Most Elegant Linux OS
Posted: 16 Mar 2025, 23:47
by SEMERENDO.cr
but, the lilo bootloader?
nanZor wrote: ↑11 Mar 2025, 01:24
It's a cultural thing from way back about iso's where we were all taught not to simply copy the iso over to a target disk and expect it to work. So we finagle with the iso directly, not realizing that in Porteus' case (and some others), there is no need to burn or dd, just simply mount the iso and copy files from within to target drive. Follow additional instructions. Say whaaat? Yes. Blows your mind first time out. Something that simple can't work - but it does.
I do like how Gparted-Live and some others do it the Porteus way too with both .zip files in addition to .iso files. Kinda' forces one to unarchive that zip, and realize that simply copying files (and following any other README instructions) actually works. No burners or dd needed!
I'm kinda with Igor on this - but an additional .zip format (to force a simple unarchive) would probably double the workload / space unnecessarily.
PORTEUS - The World's Most Elegant Linux OS
Posted: 17 Mar 2025, 03:55
by nanZor
Heh, yeah. It's so simple now with porteus. I avoid all the front-end menu multi-boot selectors and just change my system boot in bios to whatever I feel like at the time. I think we complicate things unnecessarily sometimes, especially us grey-beards.
PORTEUS - The World's Most Elegant Linux OS
Posted: 17 Mar 2025, 06:17
by SEMERENDO.cr
"F12" Well but Porteus is not like Puppy Linux, in any case the command:
or other gui tool solved all!
ROSA Image Writer always force to USB device
ROSA Image Writer always force to USB device